Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron

From: Jean Caron <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 04:02:02 +0000

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Michael,
I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if yo=
u have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will have =
to drill three holes, two in  the horizontal panels and one in the bonnet h=
inge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds the top of =
the vertical panel in place.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=92s largest network.
________________________________
From: Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Hank Leach via =
Healeys <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM
To: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <heale=
[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron

Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.  They h=
ad the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical "modesty " pa=
nel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did not have the vert=
ical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is e=
arly; my guess is that you never had the panel.  Are there mounting holes i=
n the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later =
parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you could install one unl=
ess you remove the grille.  Hank
--------------------

From: "Michael Salter" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron
I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and below the=
 grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel attache=
d to it) missing.
If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the division=
 panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to have to dist=
urb the front shroud.
Thanks.

M

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I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if yo=
u have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will have =
to drill three holes, two in&nbsp; the horizontal panels and one in the bon=
net hinge and cross brace assembly for
 the machined screw that holds the top of the vertical panel in place.</div=
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[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;healeys@a=
utox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]=
am.net &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.&nb=
sp; They had the lower horizontal &quot;apron&quot; you describe but the ve=
rtical &quot;modesty &quot; panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
 53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
 way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.&nbsp; Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
 to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
 install one unless you remove the grille.&nbsp; Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>
To: &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to have to=
 disturb the front shroud.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>M</div>
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From: Curtis Arndt <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 06:20:19 -0700

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Hank and Jean

Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines Committee, an
early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I judged his car
Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Conclave and
the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around the first 350
BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.

I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help improve cooling=
.

As for his question, it can be done but will require drilling three 3/16"
holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screws and one
in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill and radiator
may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.

If you want to improve cooling without permanently altering your very
original car, I have several better options.

Cheers

Curtis Arndt
AH Concours Guidelines Committee

On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM Jean Caron <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Michael,
> I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if
> you have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will
> have to drill three holes, two in  the horizontal panels and one in the
> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds t=
he
> top of the vertical panel in place.
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Hank Leach
> via Healeys <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] <
> [email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron
>
> Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.  They
> had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical "modesty "
> panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did not have the
> vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your car (#172?=
)
> is early; my guess is that you never had the panel.  Are there mounting
> holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertical piece? T=
he
> later parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you could install
> one unless you remove the grille.  Hank
> --------------------
>
> I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and below
> the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel
> attached to it) missing.
> If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the
> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to ha=
ve
> to disturb the front shroud.
> Thanks.
>
> M
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<div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines =
Committee, an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I ju=
dged his car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg =
Conclave and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around th=
e first 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.</p=
<p dir=3D"ltr">I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help =
improve cooling.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for his question, it can be done but will require drillin=
g three 3/16&quot; holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phill=
ips screws and one in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the=
 grill and radiator may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.=
</p><p dir=3D"ltr">If you want to improve cooling without permanently alter=
ing your very original car, I have several better options.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Curtis Arndt <br>
AH Concours Guidelines Committee </p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gm=
ail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 4, 2=
025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM Jean Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_rest=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Michael,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if yo=
u have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will have =
to drill three holes, two in=C2=A0 the horizontal panels and one in the bon=
net hinge and cross brace assembly for
 the machined screw that holds the top of the vertical panel in place.</div=
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
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</div>
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tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
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v>
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libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of=
 Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">hea=
[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.=C2=
=A0 They had the lower horizontal &quot;apron&quot; you describe but the ve=
rtical &quot;modesty &quot; panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
 53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
 way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.=C2=A0 Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
 to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
 install one unless you remove the grille.=C2=A0 Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <=
br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don&#39;t want to hav=
e to disturb the front shroud.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>M</div>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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From: Michael Salter via Healeys <[email-masked]>
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As I mentioned this issue is not with my early BN1 ... another car
altogether.
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with
my BN1, I  have installed vertical panels, very like the division panel
used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement has
be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with
overheating issues.

M

On Wed., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Conclave an=
d
> I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help improve
> cooling.
>
> holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screws and on=
e
> in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill and radiat=
or
>> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds =
the
>> Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.  The=
y
>> had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical "modesty =
"
>> vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your car (#172=
?)
>> holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertical piece? =
The
>> later parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you could instal=
l
>> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to h=
ave
>> to disturb the front shroud.

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<div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">As I mentioned this issue is not with my e=
arly BN1 ... another car altogether. <br>
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with =
my BN1, I=C2=A0 have installed vertical panels, very like the division pane=
l used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with overhe=
ating issues.</p><p dir=3D"ltr"><br></p><p dir=3D"ltr">M</p></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr"=
>Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help =
improve cooling.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for his question, it can be done but will require drillin=
g three 3/16&quot; holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phill=
ips screws and one in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the=
 grill and radiator may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.=
</p><p dir=3D"ltr">If you want to improve cooling without permanently alter=
ing your very original car, I have several better options.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Curtis Arndt <br>
AH Concours Guidelines Committee </p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM J=
ean Caron &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_restoration=
@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

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t">
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divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font=
-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:he=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Hank Leac=
h via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.=C2=
=A0 They had the lower horizontal &quot;apron&quot; you describe but the ve=
rtical &quot;modesty &quot; panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
 53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
 way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.=C2=A0 Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
 to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
 install one unless you remove the grille.=C2=A0 Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalt=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don&#39;t want to hav=
e to disturb the front shroud.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>M</div>
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From: Michael Salter <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 08:55:26 -0400

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Thanks to all who proffered an opinion regarding installing the apron
panel. I have now made a new panel and hope to be installing it soon.
I should add for the concous folks that the divider panels that I installed
on the outer edges of the apron panel of B#174 meerly clip onto the apron
and are easily removed to afford an unobstructed view from one front wheel
well to the other, which always looks a bit weird to me.

M

On Wed., May 7, 2025, 11:09 a.m. Michael Salter, <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic wit=
h
> used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as
>> Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines Committee, a=
n
>> early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I judged his ca=
r
>> Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Conclave a=
nd
>> the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around the first 35=
0
>> As for his question, it can be done but will require drilling three 3/16=
"
>> holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screws and o=
ne
>> in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill and radia=
tor
>>> I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but i=
f
>>> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds=
 the
>>> *From:* Healeys <[email-masked]> on behalf of Hank
>>> Leach via Healeys <[email-masked]>
>>> *To:* Michael Salter <[email-masked]>; [email-masked] =
<
>>> Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.
>>> They had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical
>>> "modesty " panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did =
not
>>> have the vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your=
 car
>>> (#172?) is early; my guess is that you never had the panel.  Are there
>>> mounting holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertic=
al
>>> piece? The later parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you
>>> could install one unless you remove the grille.  Hank
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to =
have
>>> to disturb the front shroud.

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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks to all who proffered an opinion regarding installi=
ng the apron panel. I have now made a new panel and hope to be installing i=
t soon.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I should add for the concous folks that the =
divider panels that I installed on the outer edges of the apron panel of B#=
174 meerly clip onto the apron and are easily removed to afford an unobstru=
cted view from one front wheel well to the other, which always looks a bit =
weird=C2=A0to me.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., May 7, 2025, 11:09 a.m. Michael Salter, &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D=
"ltr">As I mentioned this issue is not with my early BN1 ... another car al=
together. <br>
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with =
my BN1, I=C2=A0 have installed vertical panels, very like the division pane=
l used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with overhe=
ating issues.</p><p dir=3D"ltr"><br></p><p dir=3D"ltr">M</p></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p =
dir=3D"ltr">Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines =
Committee, an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I ju=
dged his car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg =
Conclave and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around th=
e first 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.</p=
el=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">

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-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michael=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"norefer=
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net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.=C2=
=A0 They had the lower horizontal &quot;apron&quot; you describe but the ve=
rtical &quot;modesty &quot; panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
 53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
 way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.=C2=A0 Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
 to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
 install one unless you remove the grille.=C2=A0 Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: &quot;Michael Salter&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"noreferrer norefer=
rer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don&#39;t want to hav=
e to disturb the front shroud.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>M</div>
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From: Jake V via Healeys <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 10:11:31 -0400

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Hi Michael,
Do you have any pictures of how this looks in your car?
Thanks,
Jake

On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 9:39=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.=
com>
wrote:

> I should add for the concous folks that the divider panels that I
> installed on the outer edges of the apron panel of B#174 meerly clip onto
> the apron and are easily removed to afford an unobstructed view from one
> front wheel well to the other, which always looks a bit weird to me.
>
> M
>
> On Wed., May 7, 2025, 11:09 a.m. Michael Salter, <[email-masked]=
>
> wrote:
>
>> However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic
>> with my BN1, I  have installed vertical panels, very like the division
>> panel used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The
>> improvement has be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any
>> 100 with overheating issues.
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Wed., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>
>>> Hank and Jean
>>>
>>> Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines Committee,
>>> an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I judged hi=
s
>>> car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Concl=
ave
>>> and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around the fir=
st
>>> 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.
>>>
>>> As for his question, it can be done but will require drilling three
>>> 3/16" holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screw=
s
>>> and one in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill =
and
>>> radiator may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.
>>>
>>>> I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but
>>>> if you have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You =
will
>>>> have to drill three holes, two in  the horizontal panels and one in th=
e
>>>> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that hold=
s the
>>>> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network=
.
>>>> *To:* Michael Salter <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
>>>> <[email-masked]>
>>>> "modesty " panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did=
 not
>>>> have the vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since you=
r car
>>>> mounting holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the verti=
cal
>>>> I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w
>>>> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to=
 have
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Michael,<div>Do you have any pictures of how this looks=
 in your car?</div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Jake</div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Thu, May 8, 2025 at 9:39=E2=80=AFAM Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks to=
 all who proffered an opinion regarding installing the apron panel. I have =
now made a new panel and hope to be installing it soon.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"au=
to">I should add for the concous folks that the divider panels that I insta=
lled on the outer edges of the apron panel of B#174 meerly clip onto the ap=
ron and are easily removed to afford an unobstructed view from one front wh=
eel well to the other, which always looks a bit weird=C2=A0to me.</div><div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed., May 7, 2025, 11:0=
9 a.m. Michael Salter, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">As I m=
entioned this issue is not with my early BN1 ... another car altogether. <b=
r>
However that said, in order to improve the cooling cooling in traffic with =
my BN1, I=C2=A0 have installed vertical panels, very like the division pane=
l used on later 100s, but at the ends of the apron panel. The improvement h=
as be remarkable and is something I would recommend for any 100 with overhe=
ating issues.</p><p dir=3D"ltr"><br></p><p dir=3D"ltr">M</p></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
., May 7, 2025, 9:20 a.m. Curtis Arndt, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnaarndt@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</=
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x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines =
Committee, an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I ju=
dged his car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg =
Conclave and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around th=
e first 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.</p=
quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,=
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