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Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling

To: Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>, "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 15:59:42 +0000
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Jack - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup =
along the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and =
stern off to the side.

https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html


I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern =
hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters.  I then had a pair of straps =
to more safely hold the kayak.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling

Team,

I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside.  The best place =
to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, =
so I want to be sure I get this right.  I have 4, 5/16&rdquo; Eye Lag Bolts=
 that are going into the ceiling.  One end of the rope will terminate at =
either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end =
suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts.  It overdesigned, but =
it&rsquo;s hanging over a car I cherish.=20

My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16th Eye Lag bolt.  I am screwing =
them vertically up into the ceiling&rsquo;s new 2x4&rsquo;s, so I am =
thinking the pilot hole should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap=
 or paraffin to help reduce the friction of installing them.=20

I&rsquo;m looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in =
mind that while the load is light, it&rsquo;s a vertical hanging =
arrangement.

Thanks in advance,

Jack

p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare.  We had a home with three car=
 bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of storage room.=
  I am forcing everything into a two bay garage with an attached single =
wide, 42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a=
 Sprinter van and a workbench.  I do have some basement storage too.  =
I&rsquo;m using a lot more vertical storage and it&rsquo;s getting =
there&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;




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<div style=3D"color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12p=
t"><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Jack - To store my 50lb=
 kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup along the lines of the =
link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and stern off to the side.=
</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;"><a href=3D"https://www.=
harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html">https://www.harborfreight.=
com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a></p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">I'd drive the car in with =
the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern hooks, then pull the kayak up=
 to the rafters.&nbsp; I then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the =
kayak.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">Brian</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div class=3D"elnk-inline-message-container" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: =
0;">
<p>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Jack Brooks &lt;jibrooks@live.=
com&gt;<br>Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>To: shop-talk@autox.team.net =
&lt;Shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot=
 hole in ceiling</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Team,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe =
outside.&nbsp; The best place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging =
from the ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this right.&nbsp; =
I have 4, 5/16=E2=80=9D Eye Lag Bolts that are going into the ceiling.=
&nbsp; One end of the rope will terminate at either a set of cleats on the =
wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye =
Lag Bolts.&nbsp; It overdesigned, but it=E2=80=99s hanging over a car I =
cherish.&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My question is the pilot hole for the =
5/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt.&nbsp; I am screwing them vertically up into=
 the ceiling=E2=80=99s new 2x4=E2=80=99s, so I am thinking the pilot hole =
should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to help =
reduce the friction of installing them.&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m looking for thoughts on the size of the =
pilot hole, keeping in mind that while the load is light, it=E2=80=99s a =
vertical hanging arrangement.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks in advance,</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jack</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare.&nbsp; =
We had a home with three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry =
crawlspace with tons of storage room.&nbsp; I am forcing everything into a =
two bay garage with an attached single wide, 42 foot deep bay that will =
hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench.=
&nbsp; I do have some basement storage too.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m using a lot =
more vertical storage and it=E2=80=99s getting there=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6</p>
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</div>

<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.=
0;">&nbsp;</p>
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