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If you use the hook and pulley set up from horriblefreight, make sure that =
you add a back up to the hooks. They turned out to not be enough for (one o=
f) the bikes I used to hang above my Datsun. Fortunately, when one came dow=
n the Datto was not in the garage.
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jack Brooks=
<JIBrooks@live.com>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 3:50 PM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
Brian,
That=92s a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see if I am c=
omfortable with their strength relative to the canoe or if I need to build =
my own similarly. If I am comfortable lifting with this setup, I could hav=
e pre-installed cables to support the boat during storage.
Thanks!
Jack
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM
To: Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>; shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
Jack - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup alo=
ng the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and ste=
rn off to the side.
https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html
I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and stern hoo=
ks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I then had a pair of straps to =
more safely hold the kayak.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM
Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
Team,
I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside. The best place t=
o store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, so=
I want to be sure I get this right. I have 4, 5/16=94 Eye Lag Bolts that =
are going into the ceiling. One end of the rope will terminate at either a=
set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending th=
e canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts. It overdesigned, but it=92s hanging over a =
car I cherish.
My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16th Eye Lag bolt. I am screwing t=
hem vertically up into the ceiling=92s new 2x4=92s, so I am thinking the pi=
lot hole should be a smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to=
help reduce the friction of installing them.
I=92m looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in mind t=
hat while the load is light, it=92s a vertical hanging arrangement.
Thanks in advance,
Jack
p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare. We had a home with three car=
bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of storage room.=
I am forcing everything into a two bay garage with an attached single wid=
e, 42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Sp=
rinter van and a workbench. I do have some basement storage too. I=92m us=
ing a lot more vertical storage and it=92s getting there=85=85=85
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If you use the hook and pulley set up from horriblefreight, make sure that =
you add a back up to the hooks. They turned out to not be enough for (one o=
f) the bikes I used to hang above my Datsun. Fortunately, when one came dow=
n the Datto was not in the garage. </div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Shop-talk <shop-ta=
lk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.co=
m><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 3:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net><br>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",san=
s-serif">That=92s a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see =
if I am comfortable with their strength relative to the canoe or if I need =
to build my own similarly. If I am comfortable
lifting with this setup, I could have pre-installed cables to support the =
boat during storage.
</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</span></=
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<p><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Ja=
ck - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist setup along=
the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for the bow and stern=
off to the side.</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0.1rem 0"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",s=
ans-serif; color:black"> </span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0.1rem 0"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",s=
ans-serif; color:black"><a href=3D"https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-li=
ft-95803.html">https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a></s=
pan></p>
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ans-serif; color:black">I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, at=
tached bow and stern hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I =
then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the kayak.</span></p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jack Brooks <<a href=3D"mailto:jibrooks@live.com";>jibrooks@live.co=
m</a>><br>
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a=
> <<a href=3D"mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";>Shop-talk@autox.team.net<=
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Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"">Team,</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D""> </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"">I recently moved and can no longer keep=
my canoe outside. The best place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is=
hanging from the ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this righ=
t. I have 4, 5/16=94 Eye Lag Bolts that are
going into the ceiling. One end of the rope will terminate at either=
a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and the other end suspending =
the canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts. It overdesigned, but it=92s hanging =
over a car I cherish. </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D""> </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"">My question is the pilot hole for the 5=
/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt. I am screwing them vertically up into =
the ceiling=92s new 2x4=92s, so I am thinking the pilot hole should be a sm=
idge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin
to help reduce the friction of installing them. </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D""> </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"">I=92m looking for thoughts on the size =
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"">Thanks in advance,</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal" style=3D"">p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nigh=
tmare. We had a home with three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and =
dry crawlspace with tons of storage room. I am forcing everything int=
o a two bay garage with an attached single wide,
42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph cars, a Spri=
nter van and a workbench. I do have some basement storage too. =
I=92m using a lot more vertical storage and it=92s getting there=85=85=85</=
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