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Agree on the HF hoist. Load rating is too light for the canoe and the
hooks look thin. It was a representative example of some pulleys to
raise the canoe before it was better secured with some sort of strap or
other device.
Brian
On 7/28/2025 3:23 PM, Tim . wrote:
> If you use the hook and pulley set up from horriblefreight, make sure
> that you add a back up to the hooks. They turned out to not be enough
> for (one of) the bikes I used to hang above my Datsun. Fortunately,
> when one came down the Datto was not in the garage.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Jack
> Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2025 3:50 PM
> *To:* shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
>
> Brian,
>
> Thatâ??s a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see if I
> am comfortable with their strength relative to the canoe or if I need
> to build my own similarly. If I am comfortable lifting with this
> setup, I could have pre-installed cables to support the boat during
> storage.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jack
>
> *From:*Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM
> *To:* Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>; shop-talk@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
>
> Jack - To store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist
> setup along the lines of the link below, but with separate ropes for
> the bow and stern off to the side.
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html
>
> I'd drive the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and
> stern hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I then had a pair
> of straps to more safely hold the kayak.
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Brooks <jibrooks@live.com>
> Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM
> To: shop-talk@autox.team.net <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling
>
> Team,
>
> I recently moved and can no longer keep my canoe outside. The best
> place to store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the ceiling,
> OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this right. I have 4, 5/16â??
> Eye Lag Bolts that are going into the ceiling. One end of the rope
> will terminate at either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts
> and the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag Bolts. It
> overdesigned, but itâ??s hanging over a car I cherish.
>
> My question is the pilot hole for the 5/16^th Eye Lag bolt. I am
> screwing them vertically up into the ceilingâ??s new 2x4â??s, so I am
> thinking the pilot hole should be a smidge on the tighter side and use
> soap or paraffin to help reduce the friction of installing them.
>
> Iâ??m looking for thoughts on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in
> mind that while the load is light, itâ??s a vertical hanging arrangement.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jack
>
> p.s. Moving has been a rearranging nightmare. We had a home with
> three car bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with tons of
> storage room. I am forcing everything into a two bay garage with an
> attached single wide, 42 foot deep bay that will hold our daily
> driver, two Triumph cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench. I do have
> some basement storage too. Iâ??m using a lot more vertical storage and
> itâ??s getting thereâ?¦â?¦â?¦
>
>
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Agree on the HF hoist. Load rating is too light for the canoe and
the hooks look thin. It was a representative example of some
pulleys to raise the canoe before it was better secured with some
sort of strap or other device.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2025 3:23 PM, Tim . wrote:<br>
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If you use the hook and pulley set up from horriblefreight, make
sure that you add a back up to the hooks. They turned out to not
be enough for (one of) the bikes I used to hang above my Datsun.
Fortunately, when one came down the Datto was not in the
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Shop-talk <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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on behalf
of Jack Brooks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:JIBrooks@live.com";><JIBrooks@live.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 3:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";><Shop-talk@autox.team.net></a><br>
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style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thatâ??s
a nice setup. I may grab a pair for our bicycles and see
if I am comfortable with their strength relative to the
canoe or if I need to build my own similarly. If I am
comfortable lifting with this setup, I could have
pre-installed cables to support the boat during storage.
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Brian Kemp <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bk13@earthlink.net";><bk13@earthlink.net></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 28, 2025 10:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jack Brooks <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com";><jibrooks@live.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole
in ceiling</span></p>
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<p><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Jack - To
store my 50lb kayak at my previous house, I had a hoist
setup along the lines of the link below, but with
separate ropes for the bow and stern off to the side.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black"><a
href="https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html</a></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">I'd drive
the car in with the kayak on the roof, attached bow and
stern hooks, then pull the kayak up to the rafters. I
then had a pair of straps to more safely hold the
kayak.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Â </span></p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif; color:black">Brian</span></p>
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<p>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jack Brooks <<a href="mailto:jibrooks@live.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jibrooks@live.com</a>><br>
Sent: Jul 27, 2025 1:34 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>
<<a href="mailto:Shop-talk@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Shop-talk@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Shop-talk] Eye Lag bolt pilot hole in ceiling</p>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0">Â </p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Team,</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">I recently moved and can
no longer keep my canoe outside. The best place to
store this 75 +/- pound canoe is hanging from the
ceiling, OVER a car, so I want to be sure I get this
right. I have 4, 5/16â?? Eye Lag Bolts that are going
into the ceiling. One end of the rope will terminate at
either a set of cleats on the wall or more eyebolts and
the other end suspending the canoe via the Eye Lag
Bolts. It overdesigned, but itâ??s hanging over a car I
cherish. </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">My question is the pilot
hole for the 5/16<sup>th</sup> Eye Lag bolt. I am
screwing them vertically up into the ceilingâ??s new
2x4â??s, so I am thinking the pilot hole should be a
smidge on the tighter side and use soap or paraffin to
help reduce the friction of installing them. </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Iâ??m looking for thoughts
on the size of the pilot hole, keeping in mind that
while the load is light, itâ??s a vertical hanging
arrangement.</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Thanks in advance,</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Jack</p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">Â </p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="">p.s. Moving has been a
rearranging nightmare. We had a home with three car
bays and a 6 foot high paved and dry crawlspace with
tons of storage room. I am forcing everything into a
two bay garage with an attached single wide, 42 foot
deep bay that will hold our daily driver, two Triumph
cars, a Sprinter van and a workbench. I do have some
basement storage too. Iâ??m using a lot more vertical
storage and itâ??s getting thereâ?¦â?¦â?¦</p>
</div>
</div>
<p style="margin:0.1rem 0">Â </p>
</div>
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